that the united kingdom has an astronomical burglary rate compared to the united states is because uk burglars have no fears of getting shot by the homeowner. according to the united nations, scotland is the most violent industrialized country in the world. one of the reasons scotland is so violent is because the government in london has disabled the scots from being able to protect themselves against violent criminals. >> look me in the eye down this camera lens and tell me scotland is more dangerous than america, when you have 12,000 gun murders a year and 300 million guns, it's time, mr. kopel, to wake up and smell the cappuccino. got to leave it there. i'm sure we will debate this again. thank you both very much. >> thanks for having me. >>> joining me now exclusively to talk about the players' side of the story is former new york jets quarterback and hall of famer, joe namath. joe, welcome back. >> thank you, piers. good to be with you, buddy. >> it's an awful story, this, in so many ways and it raises a number of issues, gun control, we've just been debating on the show, the iss